I have 19" natural arms (no roids). My biceps routine is simple. Either after your back workout or on a separate day, try this. Sit on an inclined bench with 2 dumbells on the ground beside you. Whatever weight you choose, do alternating curls and hammer curls. I do 4-5 sets once a week followed by a few sets of standing reverse curls. I promise this will rock your arms. It COMPLETELY eliminates cheating on curls.

-BEN SHEPPARD

The appearance of larger shoulders always makes a person look larger and more muscular while making thier waist appear smaller. If you are going to hit shoulders hard to make them become the cannonballs you want them to be then take the time to destroy your back as well. The muscles in the back will help make the shoulders appear larger than life. So if you want those shoulders to be "barn door wide" make sure you work that back as well with chins, variations of wide and close grip rows, and pullovers to hit the tie ins of the back and your intercostals. You'll see the difference.

JBPROP